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5:36pm Friday 29th February 2008
Controversial conspiracy theorist David Icke told an Oxford audience that human beings are "holograms" and that the world was heading towards central control at the hands of a "fascist dictatorship".
The former goalkeeper and news presenter-turned outspoken commentator this week shared his radical views on politics and society with a rapt audience at the Oxford Union.
Mr Icke spent two hours expounding his theories to Oxford University students.
His claims included allegations that the 9/11 attacks were carried out to create a "one world government" and that the physical world is nothing but a holographic illusion.
Mr Icke, 56, told them: "The world isn't anything like you thought it was. We're watching a movie ... to give us the impression that we have freedom.
"The greatest form of control is a prison without bars. People will sit there forever because they don't think they are in a prison at all.
"The official version of events of 9/11 is an insult to the intelligence. We're being brain- washed with reasons to fear because that's the key to control.
"The goal is a centrally controlled fascist dictatorship."
He said Tony Blair, Gordon Brown and George W Bush were "puppets of a force that controls them", and claimed political parties were a "sham".
He went on to claim that the world was similar to the false reality presented in the movie The Matrix, adding: "The world we think is physical is an illusion. There is no 'over there' in terms of physical things.
"What is 'over there' are just frequency fields that we are decoding into a physical reality that only exists in our mind.
"The world that we think is physical is like a holographic TV channel. We're living in a holographic world. We're holograms."
Of his theories, Mr Icke said: "If I'm seen as sane by a world this crazy, I'm disappointed.
"Truth goes through three stages: first, it's ridiculed; second, it's violently opposed; and third, it's seen as self-evident. I know what the first one felt like - I got that in the early '90s."
Language student Jonny Wright, 21, said: "It's interesting. I wouldn't say I agreed with much of what he said.
"There's a point up to where it made sense and a point where it was getting silly. When he said the whole world is a hologram it went from credible stuff to incredible stuff."
Phillippa Lasocki, 20, a music student, said: "I think he's got some interesting ideas. I went in there with an open mind.
"He's a philosopher, and you can see the point he's making even if you don't agree with it."
David Icke was a former Coventry City and Hereford United goalkeeper until he was forced to retire in 1973 at the age of 21 because of arthritis.
He then became a journalist before moving into television as a stand-in presenter on the BBC show Grandstand.
He left the BBC after the summer Olympics in 1988 to become an activist in the Green Party and rose to the position of national spokesman (the party back then did not have leaders).
However he shot to fame in 1991 when he appeared on the Wogan chat show and announced to the country that he was "the son of God".
He later claimed he had been misinterpreted by the media.
Mr Icke has now published more than 20 books outlining his views including The Biggest Secret: The Book that Will Change the World in which he claimed that a race of reptilian humanoids is secretly controlling the world.
Mr Ison, England says...
8:07pm Fri 29 Feb 08
what a nice view, meow says...
10:22pm Fri 29 Feb 08
Stuart, Oxford says...
1:10am Sat 1 Mar 08
Phillippa, Oxford says...
4:58pm Mon 3 Mar 08
Matthew, Birmingham says...
6:42pm Tue 18 Mar 08
James, Sheffield says...
4:34pm Thu 20 Mar 08
Icke should stop over-egging the pudding with stuff that most people not only disbelieve, but which also discredits the more sensible things he says.
Robert Lindblad, Montreal says...
4:02pm Tue 25 Mar 08
Don, U.S.A. says...
2:37pm Fri 9 May 08
Michael, Europe says...
3:15pm Fri 9 May 08
Michael, Europe says...
4:07pm Fri 9 May 08
alan, ny says...
4:40pm Fri 9 May 08
ptor spricenieks, earth says...
5:35pm Fri 9 May 08
Robert Lindblad wrote:Hey Robert,
I've heard of his stuff
You know it's easy to write a book based on 100%
bullshit with a few visual and textual associations,
even though they have nothing to do with it, thrown in.
OK I just checked for you on him.
It is 100% bullshit... it's a good story that people can easily get sucked into through word/picture associationa
and manipulation.
If you think about it without having psychicly examined it like me you should ask yourself if what he says is so crucially important for the human race then he should be giving it away for free!
Rather than writting new editions and books to be sold for pure profit.
He's a good fake documentary bullshitter.
That is all.
sooty2, japan says...
6:35pm Fri 9 May 08
Slick, UK says...
6:47pm Fri 9 May 08
Helio, USA says...
8:00pm Fri 9 May 08
paul, London says...
8:17pm Fri 9 May 08
robert, toronto says...
8:18pm Fri 9 May 08
Cafe beelzebub, Earth says...
8:38pm Fri 9 May 08
tom, liverpool says...
9:27pm Fri 9 May 08
ersoy, clapham says...
10:34pm Fri 9 May 08
Robert Lindblad wrote:hmm so he's not allowed to earn a living? if money was his goal wouldn't he have stayed with the beeb, surely that would have been far more lucrative
I\'ve heard of his stuff You know it\'s easy to write a book based on 100% bullshit with a few visual and textual associations, even though they have nothing to do with it, thrown in. OK I just checked for you on him. It is 100% bullshit... it\'s a good story that people can easily get sucked into through word/picture associationa and manipulation. If you think about it without having psychicly examined it like me you should ask yourself if what he says is so crucially important for the human race then he should be giving it away for free! Rather than writting new editions and books to be sold for pure profit. He\'s a good fake documentary bullshitter. That is all.
jesusdwarka, southwest usa says...
10:47pm Fri 9 May 08
quotecan't thank david enough for what he is doing....next to Osho, david is the best out there....
Slam, Tony says...
10:51pm Fri 9 May 08
Robert Lindblad wrote:God you read his stuff quick! Dickhead. Yawn...
I\\\\\\\'ve heard of his stuff
You know it\\\\\\\'s easy to write a book based on 100%
bullshit with a few visual and textual associations,
even though they have nothing to do with it, thrown in.
OK I just checked for you on him.
It is 100% bullshit... it\\\\\\\'s a good story that people can easily get sucked into through word/picture associationa
and manipulation.
If you think about it without having psychicly examined it like me you should ask yourself if what he says is so crucially important for the human race then he should be giving it away for free!
Rather than writting new editions and books to be sold for pure profit.
He\\\\\\\'s a good fake documentary bullshitter.
That is all.
Matthew, Scotland says...
12:11am Sat 10 May 08
Nicky, London says...
12:15am Sat 10 May 08
Robert Lindblad wrote:Robert Lindblad. I wonder if you have ever actually bothered to read any of David Icke's books? I shouldn't think so judging by your ignorant comment. David Icke is becoming more popular and now gives sell out talks.
I\'ve heard of his stuff You know it\'s easy to write a book based on 100% bullshit with a few visual and textual associations, even though they have nothing to do with it, thrown in. OK I just checked for you on him. It is 100% bullshit... it\'s a good story that people can easily get sucked into through word/picture associationa and manipulation. If you think about it without having psychicly examined it like me you should ask yourself if what he says is so crucially important for the human race then he should be giving it away for free! Rather than writting new editions and books to be sold for pure profit. He\'s a good fake documentary bullshitter. That is all.
alan page, says...
12:38am Sat 10 May 08
Phil, Brussels says...
12:40am Sat 10 May 08
philip travers, Tyringham. N.S.W. 2453 says...
8:06am Sat 10 May 08
Kenner, california says...
8:22am Sat 10 May 08
Anne, Asia says...
9:02am Sat 10 May 08
Anne, Asia says...
9:05am Sat 10 May 08
jimbo, york says...
12:33pm Sat 10 May 08
Stuart wrote:david is no longer a member of the green or any other party and has not been for a considerable time the clue is in the article"politicl
So is he still a member of the Green party? If so that speaks volumes.
quotepartys are a sham"
Jack, Oxford says...
9:10pm Sat 10 May 08
paul, london says...
10:59pm Sat 10 May 08
Wibble flibble, The Planet Zanussi says...
11:07pm Sat 10 May 08
Stan, says...
1:30am Sun 11 May 08
nell, ny says...
4:39am Sun 11 May 08
nell, ny says...
4:55am Sun 11 May 08
Steevin Harper, Melbourne Australia says...
5:12am Sun 11 May 08
ptor spricenieks wrote:Gosh Robert, you have only heard of the stuff he writes about so your now qualified to comment.
Robert Lindblad wrote: I've heard of his stuff You know it's easy to write a book based on 100% bullshit with a few visual and textual associations, even though they have nothing to do with it, thrown in. OK I just checked for you on him. It is 100% bullshit... it's a good story that people can easily get sucked into through word/picture associationa and manipulation. If you think about it without having psychicly examined it like me you should ask yourself if what he says is so crucially important for the human race then he should be giving it away for free! Rather than writting new editions and books to be sold for pure profit. He's a good fake documentary bullshitter. That is all.Hey Robert, Maybe you can show me how to publish 100,000 copies and distribute MY new glossy coffeetable book for free. Then would you believe ME? Did they kick you out of kindergarten for calling bullshit on the word/picture association your teacher used on you and the books they paid for? You are a **** fake commentary bullshitter.
david, London says...
10:59am Sun 11 May 08
Ian Sternberg, Harwell says...
4:24pm Sun 11 May 08
Rob Pettersen, London says...
10:32pm Sun 11 May 08
earthakit, says...
10:48pm Sun 11 May 08
earthakit, says...
10:48pm Sun 11 May 08
nell, ny says...
12:08am Mon 12 May 08
Keeft, UK says...
1:51am Mon 12 May 08
Jeff Amigon, Accra. Ghana. West Africa says...
1:31pm Mon 12 May 08
David, Headington says...
7:48pm Fri 29 Feb 08
Mr Icke awaits your reply!
Beware reptilian humanoids that are controlling the world.
Rumour has it that they are, or have, set up a base in BBL.
May explain some recent posts!